Sunday, October 4, 2015

Court Rhetoic Past and Present


Once again, the art of persuasion rears its head. Sweeney’s article “Law, Rhetoric, and Gender in Ramesside Egypt” allows us to make comparisons between our rhetoric and law and Egyptian law and rhetoric. First, our rhetoric to persuade a court relies much more heavily on forensic evidence while Egyptian rhetoric relied more heavily on swearing oaths and the gods intercepting on the innocent’s behalf. I guess we have a similar view of justice, but it holds in our religious views that we attempt to keep separate from our judicial system, even if we do not always succeed.

One interesting point I saw in the book was that everyone had to speak for themselves. In the US, the right to defense is pretty new and leads me to believe that either most (male) Egyptians were at least decently eloquent, well reasoning, the judges were extremely fair, or the poor defenders were fed to the wolves. However, since the prosecution also had to speak for themselves, if the defense was guilt yet persuasive, then they probably were released. I realize as I’m typing this that our legal system works the same way. Overlap is expected since this judicial system likely provided the foundation for ours.
One difference we have made between those times and present time is less discrimination towards women. While I recognize that we have not eradicated discrimination, it exists at a much lower level than the article suggests it did back then. The rhetoric for women today gives women more of a voice. Instead of just theoretically equal rights, women are demanding being treated like they have equal rights. Luckily for women today, unlike the ancient Egyptian women, we have more education and opportunities to speak in public than they did. However, if Barbra Lesko is correct and women really did assert themselves in Egyptian court, then they may not have been quite as behind as we assume from ancient cultures.

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  2. Being an exchange student here in the US, it is very interesting to see differences and different views on things such as the court of law. It is interesting to learn that you find these similarities between the US legislative system and the ancient Egyptian system. Having only the Norwegian system as reference, I find it fascinating that religion is sometimes a part of the US system. Perhaps not the best example to use, but I have watched TV programs like Judge Judy, where religion is surprisingly often used as a way to claim one’s innocence. Religion is never used in the Norwegian court system, as it is both frowned upon in formal settings, and is also not allowed to use in the court at all.

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  3. Like Erlend commented, it is really interesting for me as an exchange student to see how different we relate to this text, because of the views on legislative system. I do not completely agree with him when he says that religion is never used in the Norwegian court system, because we do have some similarities with the US system, just not to the same degree. I don’t know if I completely agree with that the rhetoric of women today gives them more of a voice. I would rather think that the rhetorical situation has changed and their ethos, and that’s what makes it more powerful.

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